Elden Ring sequel looking good.

`Peyo` If you change it, thank you, it will make using the app way easier! I'd be curious to know who asked for it too! I'm pretty sure they're a mischievous imp who was out to cause consternation.

`Peyo` Yet again this isn't something urgent for me since personally I tend to upload, but I do like to use the site drawing software sometimes, like in a recent Ed Edd and Eddie strip. This is more just some feedback on a system. Probably the absolute worst part for me of using the drawing software is the color picker, because of one aspect: The fact you have to actively confirm the color you shifted to in order to keep it. What I always end up doing is changing to the color I want, then hitting the wrong button and closing it, which resets it and loses the work! Chances are others are having a similar experience, simply because confirming a color change isn't a part of the process on art software normally. Would it be possible to make it so the change is auto-confirmed on closing? I think in general that would make the process of changing colors a lot easier! Every unexpected result or added step adds friction to the creative process. Just an observation! Honestly without that one problem using the local painting app for that panel (something involving just a lot of broad pressure-sensitive strokes) would have been great! It was only the coloring part that got me frustrated due to the accidental reverts.

`Peyo` This is yet another "not necessary but a fun idea" I wanted to pass along. It would be neat if when someone actively passed a strip to someone else it would say who passed the strip to who, like have the passer's icon at the start of the line then have it say "passed this strip to" and then the recipient's icon. Then under that it could tell the time remaining for the pass. Just something that could add a bit more visual interest and info!

`Peyo` I can understand it not being feasible, if coding is an issue, I just mainly was thinking up neat engagement ideas and passing them on. The site's super great as is!

`Timebroken` Is it alright if I upload a panel?

`Peyo` That would still be good! The other idea that came to me was the option to just have all panels in a game be editable by everyone who participates. It would be very useful for collaborative projects where instead of trying to complete a comic it was more about working on one gradually. I see about the canvas size, that would definitely be no good to have slowdown, but even at the normal size it would be a pretty neat feature. The canvas here is pretty generous!

`Peyo` This is something I thought of which would be pretty neat for building interactions on the site and getting people to work together even more than now. That would be a collab strip which is a strip that has only 1 panel, and when someone draws they take the panel and modify it like they were editing one of their own panels, and when they finish and submit it, the panel then awaits the next modification. What would be really great would be if the panel could be quite large, like 4x the size of a normal panel (so something like 2000x1500) or maybe there could be an option to choose the size, so it could be made smaller if the originator wanted. I didn't really think through all the technical aspects of how this would work, since I was mainly just thinking it would be neat to be able to collab on a pic for group character scenes or to be able to pass a pic back and forth and do different parts of it. The most obvious thing I thought of was probably backups of the collab would need to be saved to the originator's account in case of needing to walk the collab back due to accidents or vandalism. I am not sure how that part would be handled.

`Peyo` I just for the first time saw the addition of panels notification, the little white balloon. That looks great, thank you for adding that!

`PotassiumParamedic` Just to let you know I'm working on a submission for this, so coming soon! I'm not just sittin' on the claim.

`PotassiumParamedic` I don't want to hold the game since it stops others from posting but I'll try and think up a panel!

`Peyo` Also if you ever need button graphics or anything and think I could help make them, let me know, I'd be happy to do anything to assist.

I'd say make it pretty obvious, and yes, right under the header would be good. One reality of web design is the more difficult everything is to find and use the less likely it will be used. That's why I am always in favor of everything being as shallow as possible and obviously placed, like putting the upload button under the disk icon that's currently used for saving (because it's a disk-based activity and nobody will ever find it under FX because it's not FX). So my vote would be for putting it right under the header and making it extremely obvious, like make it a graphic button and have it say "Clone This Strip Format to New Strip." I know it can be depressing but when trying to get people to engage with things, it's a fight against a short attention span. So the more impulsive or automatic things can be the more chance of site activity. So I'm always in favor of making things visible and making their purpose as obvious as possible. Like for example I didn't even know there WAS a list that showed a message history until that redesign, I thought it was something new. But then I was informed it had always been there. If I had wanted to find that I would have had no idea how.

`Peyo` Yeah the more I think about it the cooler that idea is, that basically would be like 1-click new game duplicate, that's even faster than having an option for a template. If you'll make it so it can be used on any game regardless of completion, that would really open it up. Thanks for thinking of that and being willing to add it!

`Peyo` Yeah actually if you can easily make copies of strip settings for existing strips, just having a button on a strip that's visible to a strip's creator called "Copy Strip" or something that made a new strip with all the same settings would pretty much be great! That way when someone had a strip format they liked, that "stencil" would be stored forever in their gallery in the form of that strip, and they could just copy it with the button on the strip. Effectively with that method, every strip someone made would become a template! I really like that concept. Maybe it could just prompt for a title when they press the copy strip button and there it is. Generally the faster and more seamless it is for someone to get something going the more chance there is it will actually happen, so anything that keeps participation smooth is going to be good.

`Peyo` Again I'd like to bring up the possibility of having options on by default (sort of a standard strip stencil) not just for uploads, but for other things like multidraw. If it was possible to set up a standard "these are the settings I'd like a new strip to have" it would be a pretty slick feature. In fact if you wanted to get advanced with it you could even allow someone to set up different stencils for strips that they could name, and choose the option of making a new strip fit one of those stencils. I don't know if it would make putting such a thing in play any easier, but you could even have a sub-page on the creation option that contained links for the different setups people made, so when they wanted to make a new strip like if they wanted to make another episode of "My continuing comic" they could click that and be instantly ready to go, or if they wanted to have "gallery comic" which could be a setup someone had for anything where they want to put forth an idea and have people contribute panels... You get the idea!

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`PotassiumParamedic` What a lovely idea! Is it alright to upload for this? I wanted to check first.

`Peyo` The Mean Machine!

`Peyo` I looked into it and now I understand! I actually didn't even know about the canvas function but that does seem like a much slicker way to do it since it means you keep control of the page layout. Thanks for the info! And great work getting it functioning right!

`Peyo` By the way if you don't want to spend time explaining this that's fine, I'm just curious because it's interesting. But the way you animate things here on PChutney is by having the src tag change on a timer?

`Peyo` Interesting example, the scaling one! Thanks for backing that up, that was pretty profound. Did it end up being a caching issue that was causing the animation problem?

`Peyo` The flipbook seems to work fine (I'm not sure what to look for in the way of errors but didn't see anything amiss) and the animations also seem to be working fine for me again, I checked several and don't see any problems or hitches. As for the scaling hack, I had never seen that previously, and now all I am seeing is an animation of a color change. From the comments it looks like at one time it may have changed the actual size of the frame, but that's not happening now. Just the color change!

No I take it back, now that I look I'm seeing freezes but they seem not to stop the animation, but it's definitely chugging.

`Peyo` I checked and it's happening to me too, animations are stopping or being jank. Oddly my old dancing animation seems fine so maybe it uses some previous method. But on Carrot's animation I see it cycle once then stop cold.

o.O Oh wow this is looking great!I love the list that shows passing and mentions.

`Aluminimalism` Good point because otherwise it's pointless to even show the panels as objects, you may as well just have a count. That would be really good and could likewise have the same logic as the NSFW strips that if someone goes to the NSFW tab they know what they're signing up for.

`Peyo` I mean I don't take it so seriously I'd make a site based on it or anything, but, you know... Actually that scoring system would be great, if you could assign a number value (or represent it with an emoji like in your example) to allow different panels to be sorted. An additional bonus is it would allow people to get NSFW panels out of their main gallery and into a sub gallery. That would have two nice effects, the first being if someone was sheepish about doing NSFW it would give them less of a worry that their gallery would be a minefield of giant "I DID PORN no actually there's nothing sexual in the comic but THIS MAKES IT LOOK LIKE I DID PORN" signs, and if someone just didn't want have a bunch of generic signs cluttering their gallery, being able to shuffle them off to their own folder is a good fix.

`Peyo` In case he hasn't asked I think it would be great to give `🔳` upload ability as he's a good contributor who is always generous! The site would only benefit from any liberty he was granted.

`Peyo` Also the bit about feeling bad about work, I'd say this: The ability to feature panels would never cause me to create a panel I otherwise wouldn't make. But the ability to scrap panels and put them in a place where I could say "Don't take these panels seriously, they were for a specific context" certainly would cause me to make panels I wouldn't otherwise make.