`a regular person` it happened to me a few times too.. but it really got out of hand lately 🤔 usually 529 just means servers are overburdened .. but of course we are on shared hosting so its not something we can do about 😓 so far I wrote to our host about it and got a ticket number - I'll keep you guys updated 🤔

`KagomeShuko` now it feels unfortunate that this site is not that well known 🤔 perhaps you could make a thread on PJ [https://www.paneljam.com/](https://www.paneljam.com/) too?

`KagomeShuko` I hope things get better soon - at least the rats are out 🤔 sent you some dough 👍 and here is the markup based link for convenience: [https://www.supportnow.org/emergency-housing-for-bridget-delaney](https://www.supportnow.org/emergency-housing-for-bridget-delaney)

welcome `arcturocatz` you are a full user now! 👍

`dwbi` welcome, welcome! good job, you are a full member now 👍

`KagomeShuko` damn doctors really don't have it together lately 😓 my health problems seem nothing compared to this 🤔 I hope you get better soon and the rehab is doing well 👍 if we can help you in any way let us know 🤔

`KagomeShuko` oh dear, I had no idea 🙁 get better soon! don't worry about it then and I'm afraid it seems I don't have many options on my end unless its an issue that happens to everyone it's most likely a client side thing 😔

`KagomeShuko` well that is all common possibilities exhausted then 🤔 hmm.. if it was a server side thing you would have occasional logouts (as php uses a randomised approach) so I still suspect that chrome just doesnt like this site 🤔 do you have any other device besides the chromebook? (and I mean something that is not a chromebook - phone or pc or whatever) just to see if login lasts longer on one? 🤔

`KagomeShuko` I read up on stuff and it's possible that chrome simply doesn't trust the site 🤔 (they whitelist sites like facebook etc) can you confirm you are not in incognito mode? and also if you click the icon next to the site name (next to pchutney.com) there should be a padlock icon of sort does it says anything about cookies being blocked? 🤔 (this site only uses a single login cookie)

`KagomeShuko` now it's every time you visit? 👀 did it got worse then? 🤔 (I certainly did not touch any settings in a while) (does this happen on other sites btw? 🤔)

`KagomeShuko` hmm I guess we could eliminate these as the problems 🤔 so far I only know of you and `The Metal Chair` to have this problem but I don't see anything else that could cause it 🤔 maybe you both have something in common I don't know 🤔 or it's just our host is acting up 🤔 (could be just internet through regions not trusting each other) (it's possible others just don't notice it or doesn't happen to them of course)

`KagomeShuko` hmmm.. anything that might vary your IP often? e.g. do you use a VPN? 🤔 Edit: I just stumbled on one possibility searching up on the chromebook angle: do you share the chromebook with anyone? allegedly a different user logging in potentially clears all session data 🤔

`KagomeShuko` that is strange for sure I'm afraid we are way beyond html it's php and server settings .. policy and chaos 😓 but there might be something simple to it: do you do anything special? e.g. often switch between devices or browsers? 🤔

`KagomeShuko` a week should be the normal from what I gathered due to host being shared it's not fully under the sites control when your login session is cleared 😓 so far it seems to be random for whom it happens to and when 🤔 (I didn't got far fixing this even with ai help 😔) so right now my answer is I have no idea if there is a way to fix this web deving is completely fubar nowadays 🤔

`KagomeShuko` 👍

sorry about that - I think the server or the site might be acting weird with too many images for some 🤔 thing is I have no idea if the site is fast for others or works right as its a hungarian hosting service 😓

`KagomeShuko` `a regular person` no harm done, back to your usual shenanigans everyone 📢

and so once again `🔳` saves the day 👍

`Yitsul` here we go 🎨🐇

only you can help us now satan.. 😔 `Yitsul` unless.. maybe I could change the second one into something easier? 🤔

`a regular person` I guess it was not so much a coding error but an ui design error after all 😅 for now I changed the default onion opacity to 50% and added a onion button under the images so you need to press the button instead the image itself hopefully it will be less confusing this way 🤔 (still it feels far from perfect 😓)

`a regular person` oh I think I know what is up then if you click on the image itself it switches to onion mode and you couldn't tell because you copied the image and it showed the same image 😮 (onion is mode is to show the previous frame for tracing but by default its 100 opacity - I need to somehow indicate that its turned on to be more obvious - you see a little onion slider on PC when its on but might be not so visible on tablets 🤔)

`a regular person` that outrules my theory of old browser shenanigans as that is quite a recent version 🤔 so far ai suggested a possible reason and I added a small fix.. please see if there is any improvements 🤔 and just to be clear: only the tools dont work when this happens or the whole painting thing goes kaput? e.g. do buttons still work? 🤔

`a regular person` and of course I forgot to ask: can you check the chrome version on your tablet? 🤔

`a regular person` so far I tried replicating it in an android emulator and tried edge browser but no luck (as in both seem to work ok) maybe this is something samsung specific 🤔 for the shading it seems the layer for it was not saved properly somehow - but I don't have an explanation for how that happened 🤔 (it's not comforting this can happen - but also unrelated - so its another bug entirely)

`a regular person` that is definetly a bug but I seem to have trouble reproducing it 🤔 (so far checked on firefox and chrome and seemed to be ok) can you tell me more about your setup? (tablet? pc? mobile? browser?) just in case it might be a special case 🤔 and does it happen every time you try to copy? also if anyone else is reading this please let me know if it happens to you 🤔

I guess we should extend the wiki 🤔 but I cannot really go beyond [https://pchutney.com/wiki/doku.php?id=help:basic](https://pchutney.com/wiki/doku.php?id=help:basic) on how to explain things 😔 there is a lot to explain I'm just bad at explaining 😓

`The Metal Chair` ok that is good news 👍 i'm afraid this might be as good as it gets seems we cannot have long sessions plus extend sessions as my research on this showed that web technology couldn't quite figure that out in 30 years 🤔

`Zeezei` well that confirms it works at least 🤔 I adjusted them a bit but I cannot guarantee there won't be some overlap still 😓  we kind of hit physical limits 🤔

`a regular person` `Mothbunita` ok with the power of ai I managed to cobble something together and so far it seems to work 🤔