newgrounds is still around? 👀 seriously though I don't know.. with the state of the world right now I figured people just got more important stuff to do than draw 🤔

`Scones and Cones` 👍 thank you, I feel bad as I should have done this one a long time ago 😓 better late than never I guess 🤔 `Painovoima` you nailed it 🤭 Merch? Well lets think about this carefully 🤔 I'm afraid the best i can do is buy a bunch of those black rat plushies from ikea and resell those 😓 But that is ok we are far from short on hosting budget 😉

nice to hear from you again `Painovoima` 😊 hows the world tour going? 🌎🌏🌍 🤭 frankly I just feel guilty for not drawing more 😔 or figuring out how to make this site popular 😔 but at least I managed to update it this year 🤔

happy birthday! 🎂 🎈

additionally the wiki was upgraded to the latest DokuWiki version and a captcha was added for login 🤔

this feature was suggested by `Scones and Cones` feel free to suggest one yourself and I'll see what I can do

I planned to add some updates this year but I have no idea if I will have time for them (I had similar plans for the previous year 😓) don't let my lack of presence bother you and have fun! (and remember - if there is an emergency you can always send me a mail at bobos89136(at)gmail.com) Happy new year everyone!

`Crazyhead` if anyone wants to make one (or on some other social site) you have my permission 👍 (as far as I'm concerned you don't need my permission - just making it clear that you are welcome to do as you please 🤗) and `Scones and Cones` brings up a good point - going too big with advertising the site might not attract the right crowd - it's sort of a gambit 🤔

`PotassiumParamedic` sorry for not being active (and also for this sudden driveby) I still occassionally check on the site if it's still there (unlike some people 😒) hosting (and domain) is good until 2025 07 and because we are on cheap hungarian servers we got enough dough to last for a while (heck just the other day I spent 100 years worth of hosting on getting a roof fixed 😐) and feel free to email or discord me with any problems 👍 (expect this site not being active one that is - as I have absolutely no clue what to do about it 🤔) I'm still around just don't feel like drawing anymore 😕 (life problems and let's leave it at that)

and without further ado: I'm off it's been real

cheddar and raz are the discord admins selected for similar reasons

Effective immediately: `🔳` `Scones and Cones` `sam sai pef and friends` `Painovoima` `Electra` you are admins now you have been selected because: - you visit the site often enough - and I'm 100% sure that you don't want the job all you have to do: if a new user joins decide if they should be full member or not for this you need to press a button on the top of their profile

I'm sorry but I think you just put me into perspective we won't have uploads by default because the 'control freak' said so if you want me to put my foot down so badly then so be it

after everything I have done and all the features I added I'm just a 'control-freak weirdo' 😕 you know for someone who worry a lot about how other people feel about uploads on their strips .. you don't seem to care much about my feelings 🤔

`TeeEffDee` I know i'm a pushover of sorts and I know i'm digging myself deeper here but I just want to reach a compromise - that is all is there to it 😔 there is no conspiracy here - but then of course that is exactly what we would tell if you there was one 🤔

`TeeEffDee` I thought of a solution, let me know what you think: there might be a day where I would need help with the hosting costs (still far away but let's plan long term) and I figured for that we could add the privilege of uploading anytime for people who donate now becasue of this: how about adding an extra setting that disables all uploads? (even for the people who have this anytime upload privilege) so if someone absolutely has a vision and not just doesn't care about it can turn off all uploads

`PȂX` indeed and I hope we can reach some compromise on this (even though I thought we already did) in a way making a site is more about social problems than technical problems 🤔 `Painovoima` you know the original concept was just to have black and white drawings (kind of like the miiverse on the wii u) mostly because I figured 1 bit graphics could be hosted anywhere cheaply (and of course this way it could live along PJ without threatening it's subscription bucks by being a different thing) sometimes I feel I should went with that instead 🤔

that is a good idea.. but I'm not sure how to solve it (without making an all new website dedicated for these at least) 🤔

`TeeEffDee` I had no idea that PJ had (legal) uploads and I thought that by having them indeed the spirit of PJ would be hurt 🤔 anyway it's no hill I want to die on .. but the thing is that from my perspective I thought I already solved it by just giving people who always want to upload the privilege to do so .. (thinking this would make everyone happy) so my suggestion for now is: don't worry about it and upload away and if someone gets mad: you both blame me 👍

I had no idea PJ had uploads 😮 ( I thought it was with hack only 🤔) btw were there actually an ocassion where you ( `TeeEffDee` ) uploaded and someone got mad about it? 🤔

`TeeEffDee` but then if I make uploads the default wouldn't that have the same problem? like then I'm trying to trick people who wouldn't want them enabled and then they would need to check every time? 😟 somehow I feel there is no 'winning' for me here 🤔

`TeeEffDee` but I gave you powers to upload without them enabled, remember? 😟 (or did that broke? 🤔)

you know the domain is still working and it's still the heroku icecube not to mention: [https://shop.paneljam.com/](https://shop.paneljam.com/) [https://learn.paneljam.com/](https://learn.paneljam.com/) maybe jamdaddy is just not aware that it went kaput and we just have no way to tell him because we have no idea how to contact him? 🤔 but then I may be just getting everyones hopes up 😔

`elektel` just edit it out for now (there is no true delete yet, I plan to put in some undoable delete sometime but it's not high priority 🤔 )

`Electra` I edited it out for now I'm not sure if `Rick Astley` is still around (unless it was the doc's alt? `PotassiumParamedic`)

yea that seems pretty usual use 🤔 if it happens again let me know (for now I have no idea why it did)

`Painovoima` thank you you are always so kind 👍 still.. being better than latest indy.. now that was not a high mountain to conquer 🤔

`Yoylecake420` btw you can enable 'multiple drawing' under 'extra' in the edit strip settings if you want people to be able to add more than one panel at a time (but i'm no dc veteran so I have no idea if that is how it played 🤔)

no one? then what's the point? 🤭

still it's nice that you tried it out 👍 injection is such an easy mistake it can show up anytime anywhere 🤔